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Rumi poem as opening of the conversation; Ellie’s offering to help mature persons to self-realization; experience with meditation as pre-requisite; 

How to meditate; join self enquiry during the retreat; trusting the truth when the mind is ready; to know yourself is to be yourself; the universe is in you; knowing what is real; seeing the beauty of duality; recognition of „all there is is this“; mind becoming one with nothingness; nothing ever happens to what we are; no mission whatsoever; being ready to die and let go of the „you“; the path is not for many; many want to stay as seekers; the seeking process is all mental; you and the truth are not two; every thought and emotion are welcome; looking not as a person; there is only THIS and THIS is what I am and what everybody is; gurus who want to collect disciples; becoming free from talking to gurus; hearing the truth is not self-recognition; once you know the truth there is no practice; truth is not a state of constant joy; the thoughts of wanting to become someone or something dissolve; imagelessness; liberation of the mind and from the mind; once you recognize the truth: trust the truth; difficulty of mind trusting emptiness; sometimes mind dissolves in this emptiness; the me as a separate entity has to claim that I am nothing; mind has to jump into nothingness and at the same moment it is recognized that this nothingness contains everything; in the ultimate vision there is no point of reference; not talking about the truth to the „ordinary people“; truth is not knowable and cannot be talked about as it is not a thing; knowing how people feel on the path; coming to the end of the path – 99 per cent is not enough; knowing that you are nothing and at the same time seeing yourself as everything; strip everything; bring the attention to that which never comes and goes; you are still and not moving; investigating truth in one to one interactions can be helpful; talking about the truth is not the truth; Ellie does not want anything from you; send her an e-mail when you believe you are ready; no intention, agenda, motivation or desires – ready to die and fall into the truth; two day retreats with five pre-selected candidates in Long Island; readiness is the key; practice the meditation of being yourself with closed eyes; dropping beliefs; intimacy with everything; loving the play of duality and celebration; looking into what remains finally after everything is dropped; not taking it so seriously; doing the path on your own can be difficult – that is why Ellie makes herself available as she knows where one can become stuck; watch Ellies interviews at Buddha at the gas pump as complimentary videos.

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